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We sat down with household unit legislation attorneys Rebecca Ritchey and Sara Kelley of Sibus Law Group to debate their experience in our Lawyerist Lab Community.

Lawyerist: Hi Rebecca and Sara! Could you give a quick description of your agency, your observe space, location, and every other particulars you wish to inform me about it?

Rebecca: We’re Sibus Law Group. We’re a fairly small agency—now we have two attorneys. We do flat-fee household unit legislation, which is all the pieces from litigation to consulting charges on a flat-fee foundation. This means purchasers know the price of the companies upfront and obtain solely the companies they need. 

Looking for a Forward-Focused Support System

Lawyerist: And what have been the largest challenges in your agency proper earlier than you joined Lab?

Rebecca: When I discovered Lawyerist, I used to be initially in search of assets on reception companies. But then I began to see that there was this actually good group of individuals making an attempt to alter the observe of legislation—which is what we have been already doing. 

We don’t have entry to a group open to this sort of change right here in San Diego. I attended one of many first LabCons and that’s what place I discovered this nice group of Labsters. So, you can say I wasn’t particularly trying to find group, however the group is why I stayed.

Lawyerist: How about you, Sara? What have been your challenges earlier than you have been in Lab?

Sara: Similar to Rebecca. I joined a bit later than she did, however the challenges have been the identical—tips on how to construct a contemporary legislation agency. One of our main challenges was discovering people who believed that there was one thing completely different from conventional legislation observe—for instance, transferring away from the billable hour.

Lawyerist: Rebecca, you talked about LabCon. What was it about LabCon that made you notice you wish to be a part of Lab? 

Rebecca: At the primary LabCon, we stayed up late into the nighttime, engaged on initiatives. The thought of collaborating to unravel an issue in such a brief time frame was superb. Sara and that I collaborate on our own, however once you get a gaggle of individuals collectively who’ve nice concepts, you may’t beat it. It wasn’t simply spitballing concepts. We really did one thing and that’s once I was like, “OK, these people take action!” 

Lawyerist: What was the benefit of each of you becoming a member of Lab, versus only one individual within the agency?

Sara: Joining collectively allowed us to serve completely different roles. Rebecca and that I took a divide and conquer plan in direction of this. Rebecca centered on advertising and enterprise, whereas I used to be capable of deal with different tracks that go together with my position because the Chief Innovation Officer and Legal Engineer on the agency.

Working collectively in Lab places us on the identical page.

1×1 Support to Grow Your Firm Your Way

Lawyerist: How did the Lawyerist workforce provide help to implement and strategize?

Rebecca: Initially, once I joined Lab, I relied closely on the course modules. I systemically went by means of these. And then when 1:1 teaching was launched, it was so good to know that I might go to somebody if I used to be caught. If I need assistance with, say, a social media or administration difficulty, i’ve somebody with that particular experience I can speak to. 

Sara: Being capable of communicate to a coach within the second once I’m caught is invaluable. There aren’t many locations you will get this sort of suggestions. You can’t usually call up one other legal professional and say, “Hey, I want to automate my client intake system. How do I do that?”

And the folks on the Lawyerist workforce have been by means of these points and so they know what they’re speaking about once they present steerage. 

Rebecca: Yeah! Prior to Lab, Sara was spending a big period of time researching assets. And not that we nonetheless don’t analysis—we’re curious, in spite of everything—however now we will get recommendation and assist from individuals who have already finished this work, as a substitute of simply mindlessly looking out the internet. 

Accomplishments In Lab

Lawyerist: So, you’ve been in Lab some time now. What are some milestones you’ve achieved whilst you’ve been right here?

Rebecca: I hold pondering of how we automated our consumer inlet system. It’s simply so thrilling. We modified and automatic our total funnel, from inlet to onboarding. It’s nice. Masterminds, conversations with coaches and different Labsters—all have been a giant assist.  

Sara: Another one—conversations with different Labsters at LabCon and different occasions actually helped form our social media technique. Picking the proper individual to rent for this with this made a distinction, too and it’s operating like a well-oiled machine. 

There was a shift what place the technique went from a factor hanging over our heads to a fleshed-out mission. Hearing what different individuals are doing and getting that suggestions throughout Lab occasions helped put our minds comfortable—different folks have finished this and so they’re profitable. 

Lawyerist: You’ve talked about the Lab group being useful. What different methods have connecting with Labsters helped?

Rebecca: Seeing how different folks wrestle with related points has been so useful, particularly in Masterminds what place we’re getting AND giving recommendation. Like, you realize, once you’re educating, you’re discovering as much because the individual you’re educating. Sometimes giving recommendation or others’ views provides me an goal perspective of our own points.

Sara: It’s been fascinating to see what number of legal professionals wrestle particularly with hiring and discovering the proper match for his or her agency. You would assume these are two sides of the identical coin, however I’ve seen different corporations rent primarily based on folks simply displaying up and applying. Watching different attorneys work on intentional hiring has helped our hiring, too. 

Lots of solo attorneys are scuffling with this as a result of legislation corporations have a special hiring construction. For occasion, in case you wished to start out a restaurant, you may first work as a server or a bunch, then transfer to supervisor, then contemplate opening your individual restaurant. Often in legislation corporations, folks skip the climb and go straight to owning. So they don’t have loads of experience to find the proper suits.

It’s been useful to work with Labsters who perceive this concept and wish to be extra aware about their hires. 

The Future of Sibus Law Group

Lawyerist: If you had one piece of recommendation to offer to somebody beginning their very own agency, what would you say?

Rebecca: I’d say—don’t let the noise of how everybody else practices drown you out. Keep going again to your why—why you began your agency and why you wished to do issues in a different way than conventional legislation observe.

Sara: Start with case administration platforms. Don’t attempt to invent your individual manner of monitoring instances and conflicts and cash coming into your agency—there’s software program on the market that can already do that for you. It doesn’t matter which one, seize one, begin throwing all the pieces into it.

Lawyerist: Good recommendation. And what does the longer term seem like in your agency?

Rebecca: Bringing authorized companies to the lots. Scaling up, permitting folks to grasp the prices of authorized companies and what goes into it and giving them the autonomy to decide on the companies they want primarily based on the recommendation we give them. 

And, additionally, bringing this to individuals who historically draw back from going to an legal professional as a result of they assume it’s difficult and costly and it’s simply going to mess up their divorce. And I imply, there are 50 million motion pictures and TV about this false impression, so the way forward for our agency is altering that picture.

Sara: The future is discovering the proper know-how to unravel issues that don’t require legal-specific data. You don’t want authorized data to scan a doc or reply a telephone. We wish to get rid of lawyer time spent on non-lawyer duties and deal with the lawyering half. The different stuff will fall in line if we do that and entry to justice prices will come down. 

Our final purpose is for folks to come back away from our agency pondering, “I love my lawyer.” That was a phrase that got here up in our preliminary advertising growth. We’re not there but, however so far as an final form of pie within the sky purpose, that’s what we would like folks to stroll away saying. And I additionally need folks to like being a lawyer.

What areas of what you are promoting are you trying to take to the following degree?

Whether the purpose of what you are promoting it to convey authorized companies to the lots in a brand new, revolutionary manner or just simply get pleasure from going to work on a regular basis, we wish to provide help to. At Lawyerist, our primary purpose is to set you on a observe to blow your individual expectations out of the water.

Lawyerist Lab is stuffed with assets, knowledgeable coaches and an legal professional group that wish to empower you to not solely reach your targets, however propel you far previous it. Ready to make the plunge? Learn extra here.


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